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Postby fflutterffly » January 25th, 2010, 2:52 pm

Leisenrings Lift and High-Sticking sound almost exactly alike. So?

I used something like the Leisenring with deadly success on the Kern in years past, how ever incorrect it might seem to the originator. I would stand just below a seam, cast directly up stream, allow the fly to drift through the current and as the slack begun to form I'd slowly pick up my slack line. Once the fly got within 15' of me, as it was still up stream, I'd lift my rod tip, slack in hand as the fly moved past. Once the fly was on it's way down stream I'd lower my rod tip and finally begin to shake out my slack line from my hand.
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Re: semantics

Postby beachbum » January 25th, 2010, 6:24 pm

They are close. The "lift" is a deliberate lifting of the fly, to a specific fish, or lie, to simulate a hatching insect. It's been a killer for me over the years. To get it in the right position, you need to get the fly down, and that's where the high sticking comes into play, so you can dead drift the fly into position before you raise the rod, causing the fly to rise. I use it in lakes too.
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Re: semantics

Postby 209er » January 25th, 2010, 6:54 pm

Hi Ariel,
This technique is as old as the hills but I think it was superceded(sp) by the "indicator type" fishing we commonly use today. Bobber fishing opened up nymphing ten steps higher than just weighted nymphs plus buckshot. This is my take on the Leisenring lift, it may not be correct but it's mine. As a matter of fact, if you're not forty, you probably have never heard of this techique. Effective but tough to master, like I said, that's my take and yes, Bill's explanation is correct. Actually, I think indicator nymphing evolved, when? Mid 70s? ;) 209
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Re: semantics

Postby briansII » January 25th, 2010, 9:43 pm

209er wrote:Hi Ariel,
This technique is as old as the hills but I think it was superceded(sp) by the "indicator type" fishing we commonly use today. Bobber fishing opened up nymphing ten steps higher than just weighted nymphs plus buckshot. This is my take on the Leisenring lift, it may not be correct but it's mine. As a matter of fact, if you're not forty, you probably have never heard of this techique. Effective but tough to master, like I said, that's my take and yes, Bill's explanation is correct. Actually, I think indicator nymphing evolved, when? Mid 70s? ;) 209


"Indicator fishing" has been around a lot longer than the mid 70s.

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Re: semantics

Postby beachbum » January 25th, 2010, 10:30 pm

We still call them bobbers. They do work.
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Re: semantics

Postby FlyinFish » January 26th, 2010, 9:01 am

Isn't this similar to what you do with midges? The fish like to hit it as it all of a sudden begins to rise up. As you stop giving line, the current unrolls the bow of line it's been dragging, giving the fly a nice gradual rise...

High sticking I've always thought of as simply adjusting the height position of your tip to control the slack as much as is necessary to get a drag free drift.

I think the L Lift sound like doing whatever it takes to get a drag free drift, which may include high sticking, and then towards the end of the drift, instead of just starting a new cast, allowing the fly to gradually be pushed up from the bottom by the current.
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